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« on: September 14, 2007, 11:23:43 AM »

My body type is Endomorph, I am 7months into it I notice the change. But I am not satisfied. I work my chest on Saturday, heavy sets also super sets, and EOW I will do drop sets. After working out that entire day or the next few days my chest looks like a chest and I just hit the gym. By the middle of the week I don't have the same look or feel. I am taking my protein and cell mass. I work my entire body my lats are really looking good and I am getting that V look in my structure. Should I work my chest twice a week or this is normal?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 07:08:41 AM »

What does you sets and reps look like for chest, as this is probably part of the problem.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2007, 10:36:27 AM »

Yes Jay, what is your routine like (sets/reps/total exercises) and we can dissect it a little better for you. In all honesty if you are really blasting your chest during your workout you will not need to hit it more than once per week. Intensity needs to be through the roof and under the heaviest weight possible (with proper form of course) to spur growth.

I have added a "pump" day before where I just do some light sets but not to failure, but in all honesty I see the best growth when I just leave it alone to completely recouperate before then next blasting.

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 04:28:51 PM »

I am flat benching 4 reps with 6reps each at heavy weights.
Next incline; same
Next decline; same
Next Dumbell press
Close grip Dumbell Press
Drips same EOW I'll have a spotter to let me max on each station, then i'll rest until next saturday far as chest. Of course protein and Cell Mass immediately after workout.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 02:21:24 AM »

7 months isn't a long time when you are creating a sculpture...be patient, changes will happen in fits and starts....your body needs recovery time, once a week is sufficient for every body part...
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 04:06:30 AM »

I am flat benching 4 reps with 6reps each at heavy weights.
Next incline; same
Next decline; same
Next Dumbell press
Close grip Dumbell Press
Drips same EOW I'll have a spotter to let me max on each station, then i'll rest until next saturday far as chest. Of course protein and Cell Mass immediately after workout.
And I see the problems, first you need more reps 8 (heaviest set) and otherwise 12 reps for all exercises, next you do not need all those exercises, so I would suggest you try this as a workout for chest.....Bench press 1 set of 12, 1 set of 10, 1 set of 8 (heavy set) and then go back down to what ever weight you used for 10 and do 12 or more reps. Incline and decline should have all sets at 12 reps, dump the D/B pressing and instead do 4 sets of flys 12 reps. If you're doing declines you do not need dips as well, but you could alternate declines one week with dips the next.

This will give you about 18 solid sets of chest work and if you do all your reps as strict as possible with tight contractions and minimal rest then along with a solid diet you'll grow like a weed, and in a few years you'll have one big thick chest.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2007, 03:44:55 AM »

Hi J. My training ideals have always been a bit different than most. Early-on in training I came to realize that less WAS more. I mean doing 5 sets of 5 reps (after warm up) will work good for you rite now as long as you are eating good, clean and often! I would suggest this training routine for the next year or two. This will get you strong and thick rapidly.
     Mondays; (2 warm up sets each and then start the working sets)
                           CHEST;
                                Incline bench; 5 x 5 (bar does not touch chest
                                                    nor lock-out, slow and in control)
                                Decline DB flies; 5 x 5 (same as above)
                           BACK;
                                Weighted T-bar rows; 5 x 5
                                Seated pulley rows (close grip) 5 x 5 w/full stretch.
                                 Bodyweight wide-grip pull-ups.
                                       (alternate to chin, behind head) 5 x 10 or...fail
                                               whichever comes first)
      Wednesdays; Tris, bi's forearms, delts...
                            Tris...
                               Skullcrushers (EZ curl bar) wide grip.
                               cable pressdowns w/underhand grip (close) let 'em burn!
                            Bi's...
                               preacher bench curls (BB or DB)
                               cable curls (facing away from weightstack)
                            FA's (forearms)
                                cable reverse curls
                                 standing forearm curls (facing stack) low.
                            Delts...(your choice here as u must switch now and then)
                                    Seated delt machine
                                    standing front BB or DB presses or
                                     heavy DB or cable side laterals.
            Fridays...
                           Quads/hams...
                                 Squats or Leg presses (heavy)
                                 Ham curls (one leg @ a time/alt)
                                 Leg extensions (1 leg at a time, alt)
            I usually leave traps for an  off day as I make this day a deadlift day as well.
                   Calves and abs get trained on every training day...heavy and/or long!
             Good luck.  J.             
                         
                                   

                                     
                               
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