overwhelmed

[eastcoast4life]

Backround...22yo 6'3 213lbs 9%bf(the clamp test so probably off a bit), lifting 4years.

Ok that being said i've never used AAS before but i've started doing research as i seem to have hit a wall in my lifting that neither changing diet/programs or shocking principles will get me past. I have done ALOT of research and i feel like after i read an article with "side effects" or "preventing" in the tittle that there is something else that i should add to my cycle. I understand Nolva or clim(i dont know how to spell them) to block estrogen receptors(right?) but does that go with your AAS or is it like have it for just in case? Is that the same with the hairloss stuff?

Also i was talking to my friend, and he was telling me what he can get and so i did research on each of them, the side effects and what there for and such but nothing says whats good to start with. What im asking is what should i get to stack to make a good cycle and what all do i need to cycle off it properly?

[HARDCORE]

First off, good for you for asking questions and studying up on AAS a bit. This is the FIRST thing someone should do in your situation.

Secondly, you should research a little more, and become familiar with PCT (Post cycle therapy) and how it works. ALWAYS have your PCT before you start a cycle, better to be safe than sorry. Yes have things just in case also, if sides emerge like gyno (have nolvadex or arimidex on hand at all times).

When you say you did "research" on your items available, what does this comprise of? A simple Google search? This can yeild good information, but also very misleading information. I suggest you get some reference material to refer to when learning about specific products and how to stack them properly for a beginner cycle. The Anabolics 2007 book just came out, at almost 1,000 pages its a must have: http://www.hardcorebodybuilding.net/anabolics2007/order.htm

if you have any money order it.

There are many bread and butter stacks out there that can yield good results, its a matter of what you have available.


Hope that helps,

~HC

[muscle_n_blood]

Bump Hardcore's post. You need to understand PCT before you start, and be sure to have your whole cycle in hand before starting. You are still a little young, and it's possible you could still gain naturally. Tell us a little more about your current diet and training, especially diet.
Having said that....You can't beat a simple testosterone only cycle for your first one. 300 mg to no more than 500 mg a week will yeild great results. no need to stack yet.

[eastcoast4life]

test

[eastcoast4life]

i cant post my routine for some reason, its driving me nuts

[eastcoast4life]

Day 1 - Chest/calves
Day 2 - Back
Day 3 - Shoulders/Tri's
Day 4 - Legs
Day 5 - Bi's/4arms
Day 6 - Off
Day 7 - Off

I go to the gym twice a day, in the morning i do 20-30 minutes of either running/swimming or heavy bag work along with abs. In the afternoon i go and lift with the above split. For my body i NEED to go to lift at least 5 days a week and with high volume to see the best results. I've been trying to figure out why i cant post anything and it just starting working again for me as of late but i still cant copy and paste my workout and meal plan so please bear with the multiple postings.

[eastcoast4life]

Chest - Incline DB, Flat DB, Dips(Weighted), Flys. Everything 4 sets, 6-9reps
Calves - Standing and Seated calf raises supersetted 5 sets

Back - Straight Arm Pulldown, Decline Cable pullover, Low Pully Cross Rowing, Seated Scapular retraction, 
          Chest supported DB shrugs.  Everything 4 sets, 6-9reps

Shoulders - Seated DB SP, Seated 2 arm DB side raises, Standing 1 arm DB front raises.  Everything 4   
                sets, 6-9reps
Tri's  - Weighted Dips, laying DB skull crushers, seated ez overhead extentions, cable pressdown 
          Everything 4 sets, 6-9reps

[eastcoast4life]

it wont let me post when i type alot and its driving me insane

[muscle_n_blood]

Get some heavy compound work in on your back, deads and bent over BB rows.
I like the chest work.

[eastcoast4life]

legs- squats 6 working sets 10-15 reps, leg press 4 sets 6-9reps, lunges(DB in hand) 4sets 10-15reps

[eastcoast4life]

legs(same day)- SLDL, goodmornings(done with light weight), laying hammy curl. everything 4sets 6-9 reps

bi's - olympic bar wide grip curls, olympic bar close grip curls, machine preacher curls, supplenating 
        seated DB curl. everything 4sets 6-9reps

[eastcoast4life]

4arms- behind the back wrist curls, gripper. 6 sets each till dead usually 12-15 reps

Eating - 0730 breakfast 4egg whites, 1 yoke, bowl oatmeal piece of toast, fruit
           0930 whey protien shake
           1130 lunch fish or chicken salad, 1cup wild rice, fruit
           1330 whey protien shake
           1530 1can tuna with brown rice
           1600 piece of fruit and i go lift
           1700ish post work out shake
           1800 dinner fish or chicken salad, 1 cup wild rice, fruit
           2000 turker burger on wheat bun
           2100-2130ish bed

by the way the times are never this perfect but i do my best.
           

[eastcoast4life]

Get some heavy compound work in on your back, deads and bent over BB rows.
I like the chest work.

I recently changed from having heavy exercises in my back workout to try and bring my back up to size with my arms. When i would get done with a back workout my back would be tight but my bi's would have a huge pump like i just spent the afternoon doing curls. I put these lifts in becuase of how little they use the arms,  but i know what your saying and ill put em back in if this current routine doesnt help any, ive only been doing it a week. What do you think of my shoulder routine?(I currently do rear delts and traps with back)

[muscle_n_blood]

Looks OK. I do traps and rear delts in with back also. keep us posted.

[eastcoast4life]

I just got the decca and novalex, still waiting on some pins. is there anything else i should have before i start the cycle? Or change from my current routine or eating plan?